Unique, home-made fairing mounts and Guidelines

You can do this at home

(First, you might want to read about the original Vetter brackets )

Posted Oct 31, 2009

Vetter Fairing mounting brackets have not been made since the 80s. Maybe 1983... not sure. You have asked for ideas and guidelines for making your own brackets. We present here home-made brackets that will help you to come up with ways to fit Windjammer Fairings onto newer bikes.

Pretty innovative racket by Ted Kieper:

"It's made from 1.25 x ..75 6061-T6 aluminum forging stock cut-offs that I got from a local musical harp maker. I machined the pieces in my machine shop and heli-arced them together after reverse engineering your original mounts to get the angles right. The fairing mounts perfectly level with 4 1/4" bolts on each side and lower than normal giving the Suzuki a more modern low look.

The mount is strong, light and eye pleasing after I polished it on my buffer. Everything is rock-solid at over 100 mph. Fairing and mount can be removed completely in less than 10 minutes for great motorcycle serviceability.

This is the most fun motorcycle I have ever ridden.

This was my winter project last winter. I'm sure you recall our beautiful winters here- 20 below & all...

Ted

Craig comments: Great job, Ted. The whole trick here was to keep the crossbar from twisting. In Vetter days, our standard way was to triangulate with tubing. This mount works because Ted has wisely used thick chunks of aluminum. His crossbar is not likely to twist. The only downside I can see is that his oil cooler is in front of the cylinder heads.

Making your own home made brackets may be easier like this because you don't have to deal with tubing.

Ted also made a beautiful bracket to put a Quicksilver Fairing on his Bandit

Vetter Mounting Guidelines
The last Windjammer brackets were sold in the 80s. Since I had sold the company in 1978 years earlier, I don't know how long the new owners kept fitting new models. I am often asked for guidelines on mounting Windjammer fairings onto newer bikes. Just send me a picture from the side, with the camera at tank height, a pic of his bike. Have somebody hold up the fairing where you think it belongs, without moving the camera.

I will use PhotoShop to reposition the fairing in the right place so you can build hardware that will hold it in the right position. One such Vetter owner wanted to make brackets for his Magna. He found an existing pic of a Windjammer already mounted on a Magna and asked me to reposition it (if needbe):

Not correct

With just a few changes, this fairing would have fit so much better. Follow these guidelines.

Correct

Position: The fairing needs to be moved as far back as possible. Usually one of three things are the limit: 1) The handlebars hit at full lock. 2) The instruments hit the dash board 3) the forks hit inside the opening. My guess is that the forks will hit if we try to move the fairing any farther back, above.

I have tipped the fairing back a little. As a rule of thumb, the windshield should be at the angle of the forks.


Another example:

Windshield height: Sitting in normal riding position, on the wheels (not the center stand) make the windshield about 1" below the horizon. In this position, you can peek over it when it is fogged up. You can duck down a little to avoid hail. Buy a taller windshield if you need it... cut it down if you need to. Sand the edges into a smooth radius. You never know when you might be hitting it.

Bracket fabrication tips: Newer bikes have wider tanks which means that the rear mounting bolt needs to be cut away. Sometimes this is possible but it shortens the distance between the mounting bolts and puts undue stress on the plastic. A better solution is to lower fairing so the rear mounting bolts are below the tank.

The strongest part of the bracket needs to be the front because the front is where all the weight is. Go to great lengths to make the forward portion very solid. The angle of the bracket line - where the fairing mounts - IS NOT LEVEL WITH THE GROUND. The rear is about 1" to 1 1/4" lower than the front. Take a look at some of the ways Vetter Owners are innovating mounting brackets on the Vetter Owners Pages.


On a Suzuki Intruder
Jim Messenger-Harris' very innovative mounting system. You can do this at home.

Check out this unique, low tech, "Erector Set" style mount on his 1996 Suzuki Intruder 1400. It looks to me as if you could make one these at home with hardware store aluminum, a hacksaw and an electric drill.

My only suggest would be that he tip the rear down about 1" to 1 1/4" lower than the front. It just looks better that way. See Jim's bike on Owner's Page 11.


On James' 919 Honda
Another good example of how I can help. Send me a pic like this and I can PhotoShop the fairing in the right place

The fairing might like to be higer but the bars are too low and would be in the way. Usually, when you install a Windjammer, you sit up higher and want higher bars. ( This is because you are no longer leaning into the wind.) 30 years ago, manufacturers left extra cable length. Not so today. Changing handlebars is a little more complicated.

James thought that his Honda was too wide and did not see how his Windjammer could possibly fit. He lived close by so I invited him over to see if I could help:

This is how the 1 1/4" higher front is measured
A Vetter-style mount from 1967 will work
We propped up an old Windjammer with blocks of foam. The inside rear corners would have to be trimmed slightly but the Windjammer would fit in the right attitude. Different instrument mounts would have to be made because the existing cast pieces keep the fairing from being moved back, but that would be easy. We decided to make a forward mount that would poke thru the forks, something like we did with the Series 1000-Phantom Fairings.
James is quite a craftsman!

This strut will poke through the forks to support the Windjammer on the front inner wall. It should be a very strong location and needs to be since this is the center of balance with a radio housing.

The fairing hit the tank: A little heat from a heat gun and a little pressure from his thumb...
Rear mount clamped to the frame. You must be creative to put an old Windjammer on a new bike. Lots has changed in motorcycles in 37 years!
and the tank clears.
I spent a little time with the jig saw and drum sander to trim around the radiator and these lowers fit like they were made for this bike. So I was just going to go around the block and see how it felt .... a half hour later I finally came home. It's super fun to ride now. I got colder standing there taking pictures than I did on the ride.

Wiring and bracket paint to go then I will begin fairing & lower refurb: paint, edging, and new graphics.
Craig comments: "Those Lowers are cut for BMW or GL. The bottoms have been trimmed off about 4" to clear the sideways engines You might want to find other Lowers - like for transverse 4s - before you spend time painting these. They will fit better, look better and offer more protection. James had two Windjammers... this one for "fit-up" and making mistakes... another one to copy and make perfect for painting"

A nice modern wiring solution

The electrical components came from Allied Electronics.
Parts list included:

9 pin circular plastic receptacle 206705-1
9 pin circular plastic connector. 206708-1
Socket contact. 66360-4
Pin contact. 66361-4

Ordered through their website at www.alliedelec.com
Fairly inexpensive, I ordered enough to do two fairings & the bill was $25 ish.

The fairing was "color matched" painted by Marcos Garcia, owner of Lucky 7 Customs in Antioch.

His website is www.lucky7customs.com


On Rich's 2005 Sportster
Rich: The attitude is perfect. If you could move the fairing back towards you, it would be better for wind protection, but it may be as far back as you can make it now. Maybe your knees would hit... maybe something else hits. Only you can tell.

My first reaction was to tell you to move the whole thing up... but upon studying it, since you sit so low in the saddle, the windshield is probably in the right place. Also, your high handlebars are in a good place.

So, I can only suggest that you see if you can move it back.

It is pretty good as is. I am just picky.

Good job, Rich

See it finished

Now we're in trouble:

Frank Buckman, rides one of those giant Triumph Rocket 3s around, towing a trailer with his dogs.

Rocket Dog

Frank wants to put a proper fairing on his behemoth. He found a Liberator, a fairing I designed and made for Harley Davidson in the 1970s. Frank wrote:

"Craig: I picked up Liberator serial #L 3709 today from Bill's in PA. Looks to be in good shape and Dakota likes it, too. Frank"

Dakota Dog likes having his own windshield
Proper attitude on a KZ500

If your knees tend to hit, move it straight forward so you have about an inch of clearance.

Posted Oct 29, 09

Updated Aug 7, 2011

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